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LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:21 pm
by Bioshox
Taken at the East Lancashire Railway, 30/07/2011.
Its a LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0, or more commonly known as a Black 5.
Full size:
http://i56.tinypic.com/143ol8z.jpg
C&C?
Re: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:59 am
by Theo Dibbits
Welcome back. we have not heard from you for a while.
These train shots are like motorbike ones, much harder to do then they look.
I looked at the full size one and would have liked to see a little more detail in the dark area at the front of the loco.
I just wonder if the treatment has removed some of it in which case it would be easy to put it back.
I would also be inclined to get rid of the handrail and it shadow.
Theo
Re: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:20 am
by Tom Gerrard
Hi,
Sorry for being a bit of an ‘anorak’ but your loco’ is not a Stanier 4-6-0 Black Five. It is in fact BR Standard Class 4 2-6-4 Tank designed by Robert Riddles.
The numbers 4-6-0 and 2-6-0 refer to the wheel arrangement ie a 4-6-0 engine has 4 leading wheels, 6 driving wheels and 0 trailing wheels.
A ‘ Black Five’ is shown below.
- LMS_Black_Five_45157_'The_Glasgow_Highlander'_at_Crewe_Works-as-Smart-Object-1.jpg (200.41 KiB) Viewed 6533 times
Regards, Tom.
Re: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:07 pm
by GERRYG
Tom, is this a black 5 than, and why are they called black 5's
Re: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:22 pm
by Stu B
Re: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:35 pm
by Tom Gerrard
Gerry,
Yes I believe that to be a Black 5. I've looked in my '100 Things Every Inquisitive Boy Should Know' book but would you believe it dosen't tell me why they are called 'Black 5's'. One theory I heard in the sunny long ago was this was an unofficial railway mans term, they were called a 'Black(y)' or 'Black 'un', where the '5' comes from, I've no idea, to distinguish them from the Silver Jubilee class which were were called 'Red un's' as their original livery was red. You'll have seen Jubilee class 4-6-0 'Leander' on the East Lanc's in it's red livery.
I've only known them as 'Mick(e)y's', perhaps because the were built and used for hauling mixed traffic. In the Manchester area they were known as 'Winnies' but again I've no idea why - but then again they're a weird lot from Manchester.
Silver Jubilee's were always known as "Jubs'. Both were 4-6-0 and were very similar in appearance, the Jub having a larger funnel.
That's about my sum total knowledge on the subject, as stated earlier although I wear them, I'm no anorak.
Regards, Tom.
Re: LMS Stanier Class 5 4-6-0
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:30 am
by Paul Jones
Google brings up info about Bioshox's train 80080...
No. 80080
BR 2-6-4T
Class 4MT
Operational, 800s 80 and 98 shared similar histories during their services with BR, both worked on the old London, Tilbury and Southend Railway branches, both were later allocated to other sheds and later sent to Barry in the 60s.
80080 was, like her sister at Butterley, first sent to the Peak Rail and moved to their current locations in 1983 and was soon restored to work on the mainline railtours. On the 6/11/10
80080 was tested for her recently completed overhaul. Currently the loco is on loan to the East Lancashire Railway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Ra ... _Butterley
BR 2-6-4T Class 4MT 80080 departing Rawtenstall on Saturday the 28th of May 2011.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=804kR0lCWzY
BR 2-6-4T Class 4MT 80080 in Bury Bolton Street on Saturday the 28th of May 2011.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQyJkKBZ5k8
