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Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:23 am
by Tracey McGovern
Hi
I've just obtained a Miranda 930 TCD Flashgun but haven't got a clue how to use it. It seems to fit my Canon 400D ok. It looks like this could be an old flashgun but seems to work ok in that I've put batteries in and it fires up. There are quite a few different settings and buttons, unfortunately I have no idea what they are used for - help.....!!!!!
Does anyone have an old manual I could borrow / photocopy. Can anyone tell me what all the settings are for...????
I'll bring it to the club tomorrow night in the hope that someone can show me how to use it.
Thank you to anyone who can help.
Tracey
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am
by Mike
ePhotozine has partnered with Old Timer Camera's to make the user manuals available for download. If you click on the
link it will take you to Old Timer Camera's where they will sell you the printed manual for £8.95.
Mirandacamera.com also has the download for a 700CT. . . not quite the model you are looking for but they might have more information that was not published on their website.
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:52 am
by John
Some old flashguns have very high trigger voltages (up to 300V) which can damage the electronics of modern cameras, so before using it checking the voltage would be a good precaution.
If you ask Mac at the club he'll bring in his meter and measure it for you. There's also a website that lists trigger voltages - does anyone have the details?
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:52 am
by Peaton
Hi Tracy, the trigger voltage for the Miranda 930 tcd is 6.5 Volts according to the website below, but they don’t give a definite “ yes” as to it’s use, they say “ your call “, But if that is the voltage, there shouldn’t be a problem.
http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html
Another website ( below ) says that the 400d is ok up to 250V, but the cameras manual will verify this, under “ flash trigger voltage”. My D80 will fire up to 250V, according to the manual. I use a very old Canon 199a flash and I have just measured this at 4.3V, ( the previous website states 4.99V )
http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00KhZK
There's a section on Ephotozine where you can buy a manual for the 930 tcd for £8.95.
http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/man ... lash-Gun/9
The polarity of the gun maybe important too, on the Canon 199a the centre contact is +
Hope this helps
Peter
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:30 pm
by Walter Brooks
Tracey - Wein do Safe Sync - a hot shoe mount to which you attach your flash gun, which I use on my Canon Powershot Pro 1 - for peace of mind. This regulates the trigger voltage to around 6V - The Flash Centre have them at £46; Jacobs at £44 - so you may want to shop around more. Regards
Walter
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:16 pm
by Theo Dibbits
Be careful. Canon do not state any flash trigger voltage in either my 300D or 40D manual. They also do not show it on their US or UK website.
They have provided conflicting information about the max voltage. If the camera is in accordance with the ISO spec it should stand up to 24V but Canon US have in a number of cases stated that only 6V should be used.
I presume they are simply are pig headed trying to scare people off using alternative flash guns.
You can always send them an email an ask what it should be.
Theo
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:00 pm
by Tracey McGovern
Thank you to everyone for all the help and advice. It all sounds very complicated, I may just stick with the built in flash, don't want to damage my precious camera. I'll bring the flash gun and camera tonight, see you all later.
Tracey
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:28 pm
by oakeycoke
Tracey,
Bit late but read the Canon flash bible:
http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/#faq4
As Theo states, the recommended voltage on the 'hotshoe' is 6V, however most of the Canon digital range are safe upto 240v using the pc terminal. However your 400D does not have the pc terminal the xxD series do, i.e. 20D,30D,40D and the pro series, (1D etc).
Walter's suggestion of the Wein safe is probably your safest bet should you decide to use the Miranda.
Better still sell it and save up for a Canon EX series flashgun.
Phil.
Re: Flashgun - Miranda 930 TCD
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:59 pm
by Tracey McGovern
I think I will, it's not worth the mither or potentially breaking my baby (camera).
Thanks to everyone for being so helpful, it's very much appreciated.
Tracey